berkeley223 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok we will see what, if anything, we get for bess > in a trade Could well be that we don't get an offer that makes it worth trading him. All I was saying is that saying he's only worth a 5th is a highly subjective value.
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berkeley223 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > tell me the last WR with no speed and pedestrian > stats who fetched more than a 5th round pick and > maybe I will join you all in your delusions of > getting a better draft pick. Umm...Wes Welker? Undersized, 4.6 speed. Got a 2nd and a 7th...and we got the short end of the stick. I'
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It also appears I am not the only guy in the > world, that thinks we need to "kind of" see a big > jump in Tannehill's development... I don't know that we need to see a big jump but we definitely need to see progression. Barring the fact that he ends up playing in front of a sieve of an o-lin
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dolfanmark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gil Brandt says to not believe the rumors, and > that 3 QBs will be drafted in the top 15 picks. If > that happens, Johnson could slide to us. I just want johnson to at least slide to 10. I don't mind trading up two spots to get in front of SD to get him.
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you guys are going to use my name and say what > you think I have said can you at least be > accurate... I have never said Tannehill was a bust > nor had little talent and challenge either of you > to prove otherwise... If you dont have that > evidence of me saying he is a bust, I will await &g;
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berkeley223 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The most we could > get for bess is a 5th rounder and he's more > valuable to this team than that. Really? Did someone survey GM's around the league, did then NFL pass a mandate that he can't go for more than that, or is some sports writers best guess? The plain truth of the matter is that NOBODY kn
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dolphaholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So are all of you that are outraged about the > thought of trading Bess this year, OK with signing > him to a long term deal at 4 or 5 mil a year next > year? Not sure in this day and age of FA, why > people get so attached to certain players, > EVERYONE is expendable, especially ones that don't
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bess also averaged 12.8 in 2012. He also averaged > almost 14 td's a year in college and a 12.3 > avg....but ok, probably not a good comparison > since one is in college and the other in the > pros.... And Qb has a lot to do with it. And so does the fact that Austin draws a lot of attention which b
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am starting to think Tank Carradine may be the > best option for us in the first round. > > Since the OT's will be gone and no one wants to > give a #12 and #82 up to get one player who may > end up at right tackle... > > The top CB will be gone and no one is losing sleep > over not get
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If Tavon Austin is such a play making threat at > WR, why did he score half as many td's and fewer > yards than Stedman Bailey? They both had the same > number of receptions in 2012. > > Senior year.... > > Austin 114/1289/12 11.3 avg > Bailey 114/1622/25 14.2 avg > > Career....3
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tsstamper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 3 Oak Dee Milliner > 4 Phi Lane Johnson > 5 Det Dee Milliner > > Dee's really upset by the new rookie wage scale, > so he decided to double up and play two separate > rookie contracts? haha. If a couple of more teams take Miliner then there's a good chance one of the players we want
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jlyell13 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is Lane Johnson worth trading up? Is he that much > better than Watson, Armstead, Jones, Long? guys we > might land in the second plus the 12 pick or drop > down and get another second? > > > Not sure he is proven. Armstead was impressive > athletically If we could move up for lane at
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dolphaholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bess is a FA next year AND he doesn't really fit > the prototype WCO WR mold, if you can get a decent > pick for him (3/4/5th rounder?), then you trade > him. Exactly. If we aren't going to extend bess, and all sings are that we aren't, then it would be foolish to turn down a decent offer for him
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > #Dolphins have $8.263M in cap room today according > to NFLPA: > > .aspx?report=top51 … And they get another 7.5m or so on June 1st.
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Ken Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Receiver is just not a need for us anymore. > Unless > > we pick for best player available. At this point > , > > one of out best receivers in the past , Bess > might > > even be expe
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Cyprien is a very good SS prospect. Good size, speed and can hit. Not sure he's a FS, which is what we should be looking at (Bakari Rambo...c'mon down!).
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toko34 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Last Notre Dame player drafted that turned out to > be something special was more than 8 years ago! > That's not counting Fasano or Golden Tate and some > other random joes who are all kind of mediocre. > If you want a blue chipper in the 1st round, you > gotta look for an SEC guy, they are the one
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Draft with no top 12 QB's... > > 1 KC Joeckel > 2 Jax Eric Fisher > 3 Oak Dee Milliner > 4 Phi Lane Johnson > 5 Det Dee Milliner > 6 Cle Chance Warmack > 7 AZ Dion Jordan > 8 Buf Cordarrelle Patterson > 9 NYJ Tavon Austin > 10 Ten Shariff Floyd > 11 SD Star Lotulelei >
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE Truth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Right...I get it. > > > > > > So many variables there's no way to say > anything > > other than starting Tannehill would have been a > > mistake. Sure. > > > I
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just think you can no more claim Tannehill would > have been the number 1 pick then you can claim > Tannehill would have beat arguably the most > talented redshirt freshman in the history of > college football... Tannehill is no slouch but > Manziel is the best history has ever seen at his >
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE Truth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Manziel wasn't hailed as the next great thing > > until mid way through the season. It took > time > > for him to develop. > > > > Manziel opened the season 5-1, with his only lo
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berkeley223 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the hype re barkley last season was before any of > the workouts. after the workouts RG3 exploded up > the charts. He wasn't even considered a 1st > rounder in late 2011. > the main knock on barkley is lack of arm strengh > and accuracy, after the workouts he'd have fallen > down the draft
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You can take this in a million different > directions, how about I am not sure Tannehill > would have even started this year, had he stayed > at A&M... His replacement won the Heisman and beat > the National champs as a redshirt freshman while > competing against much tougher compeition in the
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Ben Volin ?@BenVolinPBP 36m RT from last night: Gil Brandt to @SI_PeterKing: "I think if Ryan Tannehill were in this draft, he'd be the top pick"
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That's the worst sports broken leg I've seen in sports since Joe Theisman. My heart goes out to that kid.
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jlyell13 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Albert is due like $21M for 2 years so he isn't > going anywhere > unless he were to agree to less which isn't going > to happen, so he is untradeable Albert got Franchised this year. His cap number this season is $9.83 and He'll want an extension for a few more years in that neighbor hood. I d
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Finshady Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Look at our last 5 1st round picks Jake Long very > good often injured Not worth the overall #1 pick > in 2008 I think. Next Vontae Davis traded last > year has been a bust so far Surely not a good pick > for this team. Next Jared Odrick hurt his 1st > year 11 sacks last 2 years not a dominant pla
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I don't think that any NFL player is overpaid. Its an open market and they get what the market is willing to pay. Its easy to compare them to other walks of life and say they get too much for playing a game but the fact is that their work generates over $9Billion in revenues a year and they deserve the fruits of their labors. If I designed a widget that nobody else had thought of before a
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jlyell13 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Our first round could be determined by how much > we, and others (especially Chargers), feel Lane > Johnson is the real deal > > We could jump the Chargers, but they could trade > up and take him also > > > So the question is do we a trade a second & 12 to > move up for Johns
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I like the signing. We needed to make this move... > One year deal isnt much risk, if he plays back to > top ten quality then he is a steal and will cost > us a lot more next year. If he sucks, it was only > a one year deal(little risk) with a lot more > upside then resigning Sean Smith would have
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